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#46 2021-01-26 08:38:46

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Re: democracy is fragile-Clear Channel-Iheart-Liberty-media-John Malone

murdoch wrote:

based just on my impression of Republican Senator and general Republican attitudes, I don't see the President being convicted nor barred from further office, but I could be wrong.  Regardless, I don't care.  I want to see the trial carried out, as inadequate as it will be to convey the former President's unlawful behavior, and as unlikely as it is that people in his own party will find a backbone and convict him.  It is, really, a matter of principle that we need to try him.

I wish many would repeatedly make the point more loudly over the next week that Republican Senators are in effect voting to signal whether they have any personal honor left, and whether they want their party to continue with dignity and with a reputation for respect for individual human rights and the rule of law in the US.  A vote to let Trump off the hook for his heinous actions signals they are fine with just getting away with the destruction for a few more years until they can't control it and realize that they have undermined the US more than they want.

I liked this week watching the Republican leaders in Arizona make fools of themselves by censuring Flake, McCain and Ducey.  I don't even like what little I know of Ducey, and Flake seems like a tragedy, but all three of those people can now wear that criticism as a real badge honor, that they tried to stand for something more principled than the utterly disgusting anti-individualistic Trump show.

Tallex wrote:

Poll: Majority of Americans support Trump impeachment and conviction
The poll found 56 percent of Americans approve of the the House of Representatives impeaching Donald Trump for his role in inciting the Jan. 6 riots.


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/2 … ent-462264

A majority of Americans support the second impeachment of former President Donald Trump and want to see him convicted in the Senate and barred from holding future federal office, according to a new poll released Monday by Monmouth University.

The poll found 56 percent of Americans approve of the the House of Representatives impeaching Trump for his role in inciting the insurrection at the Capitol on Jan. 6, a slight uptick compared with his first impeachment — 53 percent of those surveyed by Monmouth University in January 2020 approved.


Yes, here's hoping but I'm not that optimistic as well that the 17 repubs needed in addition to all dems will vote to convict this loser but the trial has to happen as a matter of principle.
Creature 45 incited insurrection as clear as day and the trial has to proceed, regardless of result, if only to act as a deterrent to any future, perhaps somewhat smarter wanna be tyrant that may come along.

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#47 2021-01-26 11:23:04

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Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with ads for combat gear. See for yourself
Facebook announced that it will be temporarily banning some ads for gun accessories and body armor. It’s not enough

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr … wing-users




There are fixes, but they are not about banning things. Facebook already bans ads for weapons, ammunition, and explosives. Extending the ban to tactical gear permanently just opens a can of worms. How do you decide what is tactical and what is not? It would be just another attempt to treat the symptom rather than cure the disease itself.
Better than banning more things would be to revisit how the algorithm makes its suggestions, and come up with a solution that provides more avenues out of the rabbit hole than in. Tweaking algorithms so that they still serve up variety and diversity is just one idea. If they are going to monopolize people’s media consumption, they should have to serve up some common ground.
But maybe we can be more ambitious and try to create tech that builds society. Can our algorithms privilege love over hate? Can we make equations that appeal to our humanity rather than preying on our fears?
The Biden administration needs to establish a taskforce to tackle the issue. There is a long history of regulating the media in the public interest. If we let social media companies like Facebook continue to accelerate division, democracy is just going to bleed out.

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#48 2021-01-26 18:56:26

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Watchdog To Investigate Whether DOJ Officials Tried To Overturn Election
Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official, reportedly discussed a plan with then-President Donald Trump to oust the acting attorney general.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice- … 01aea6a8a9

The investigation comes after The New York Times reported that a former assistant attorney general, Jeffrey Clark, had been discussing a plan with then-President Donald Trump to oust the acting attorney general, try to challenge the results of the 2020 presidential race and suggest falsely that there had been widespread election fraud.

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#49 2021-01-28 07:03:55

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Some more color on this, from July.  This article doesn't focus in any way on the right wing talk radio aspect of Mr. Malone's influence, but on his influence on music radio that I've been wondering about.

https://nysmusic.com/2020/07/27/billion … eartmedia/
Billionaire John Malone Approved to Take Over Control of iHeartMedia
By Nora Hones    On Jul 27, 2020


A quote of a quote:

102.7 fm EQX is an independently owned radio station. Their slogan is that they are “the real alternative.” Jeff Morad, the Program Director of EQX, indulged in his thoughts on the buyout via email saying,

    “It comes as no surprise that one person, who has probably not been to a concert or purchased an album in 50 years, is currently the only person in control of the vast majority of concerts and music in this country.  As one of the only independently owned and operated stations in the country, we choose not to be disappointed by this, but rather inspired to continue to give independent artists and independent minded listeners an outlet. The only thing that can shut us down is if people choose to support corporate radio and their advertisers as opposed to supporting independent, local radio and their small business advertisers.  We can’t control who controls the media (except for by voting) but we can control what we listen to.  A friendly reminder that you can listen throughout our 4-state area at 102.7FM or on our free apps for iPhone and Androids or on our free 24/7 stream at weqx.com” All though much of our media is run through mega corporations there is always the option to find independent outlets that aren’t filtered through the mega corporations ideals.
<a href="https://nysmusic.com/2020/07/27/billionaire-john-malone-approved-to-take-over-control-of-iheartmedia/">Read more at NYS Music... </a>

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#50 2021-01-29 09:17:15

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A Republican Party Of Conspiracists And Seditionists Will Fall, GOP Lawmaker Says
Rep. Peter Meijer was at a "loss for words" to see Liz Cheney condemned for her impeachment vote but not Marjorie Taylor Greene for her "insane" theories.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/pet … e2f5bdfe40


The Republican Party cannot survive if leaders continue to reshape it into an entity of “insane” QAnon conspiracy theorists and seditionists, freshman GOP Rep. Peter Meijer warned in a dark interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper on Thursday.

The Michigan congressman said he has been stunned by Republican silence about Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a QAnon conspiracist. She has advanced a nonsensical theory that a space laser beam ignited California’s 2018 wildfires. Greene has also said that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the horrific mass shootings in Las Vegas, at a Parkland, Florida, high school and at Sandy Hook Elementary School never actually happened but were staged by actors as part of a “deep state” conspiracy.

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#51 2021-01-30 12:14:29

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A daily tally of the past 4 years events and going forward (link sent by a friend, rather interesting stuff here)


Day 1: "Democracy has prevailed."


https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.co … /20/day-1/

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#52 2021-01-30 13:19:50

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Could we please, if possible, spell out John Malone's name fully on the title of this thread?

This is an example of what John Malone appears to be platforming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFOp0EW4n54
Post Election Reflection: 'We were born for this'
349,714 views
•Nov 26, 2020
Glenn Beck
Glenn says he should have been honest with YOU from the beginning, but it has taken some time to truly gather his thoughts and feelings after the 2020 election. So recently during his radio broadcast, Glenn explained exactly what he’s feeling. He says that no matter who wins the presidency, there’s no doubt America is moving closer and closer to adopting Marxism. But, “we were born for this.” So, this message is your call to arms — not physically, but it’s a call to wake up...because the fight to restore American freedom will take every single one of us.

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#53 2021-01-30 15:32:36

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Thanks for the subject heading change.  I'll do some work here:

At least 5 of the right-wing allegedly "anti-Marxist" voices (it's as though their focus on marxism and socialism is magnified, but they are oblivious to their efforts in support of fascism) are listed on Wikipedia as being platformed by iheart media.  But although Wikipedia often is helpful, it can go out of date or sometimes simply be inaccurate.  So, the idea is to check the five.  We can firm up the connection between John Malone and iHeartMedia at another time.  Checking whether the five voices are platformed on iheartmedia:

The voices were
Beck, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin, Hannity:

Let's take a look:
1.  Beck:
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/the-glen … -23014384/

also:
Using the search functionality at his own web page, it refers me to my local station to listen to him:
https://www.glennbeck.com/st/iheart
KNST
790 AM (KNST-AM)
Tucson, AZ
Mo - Fr 7PM - 10PM
http://knst.iheart.com

So, that is one verified, four to go.

2.  Limbaugh
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/the-rush … -19001275/
https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/

also:
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/stations/
leads me to these two
KNST
790 AM (KNST-AM)
Tucson, AZ
Su 4PM - 7PM, Mo - Fr 9AM - 12PM
http://knst.iheart.com

and

KNFT-AM (950 AM)
Tucson, AZ
Mo - Fr 10AM - 1PM
http://skywestmedia.com

so, that would seem to be clearly another verification that at least some of the stations carrying Rush are within the iheartmedia group.

3.  Michael Savage:
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-the- … -31142973/

It looks like there's a recent change:
http://www.insideradio.com/podcastnewsd … dee14.html
Michael Savage Moves From Radio To Podcast Beginning New Year’s Day.
Dec 30, 2020 Updated Dec 31, 2020

This one was a bit more muddled, but it seems like there is still at least some connection to iHeartMedia.

4.  Mark Levin:
This looks good enough to count it as verified:
https://www.iheart.com/live/mark-levin-show-5522

5.  Sean Hannity
This looks good enough to count it as verified:
https://www.iheart.com/live/the-sean-ha … -247-6706/

Notes:

- I am very wary of what I don't know here.  Perhaps these radio industry contracts and relationships are more complicated than I realize.  So, I am not presenting this prelim research as anything more than a short-hand quick attempt to firm up an association of these five with a radio group.
- I am not that familiar with Talk Radio.  The iheartMedia group, and any other media that Mr. Malone is associated with, may platform both right-wing, left-wing, middle ground, off-center, non-political, and various other voices.  It would be useful to have help from other activists to get an accurate picture of whether, and to what extent, iHeartMedia is particularly platforming insurrection-advocating right-wing voices, or perhaps they just pretty much have a pool of various talents, and I've focused on five that need further examination for the extent to which they may be crossing the line into advocating for using the law to overthrow of the rule of law in the US.
- it would be useful to know any possible insurrection-advocating-voices I've missed on the iHeartMedia platform or perhaps as well on the Sirius Radio platform (Mr. Malone is associated at least in the past also with that platform).
- Over time let's also develop further research on Sirius and Mr. Malone's connection to that.
- What I'm going for overall here is understanding better where Mr. Malone is coming from in his de facto participation in the recent attempt to end the US of A as we know it.  Is he just pleading "happy oblivious libertarian hard-working billionaire?" whose radio host opinions are "not at all his fault, and anyway they're just harmless anti-Marxists"?  Or does he really want to do massive damage?  Or perhaps he does not have as much influence as I am thinking.
- One of the things I find in researching electric vehicles and green transport, and one of the things we see in US national politics in general, and one of the things I'm seeing as possibly a factor in this radio industry research, is that it is important to understand that the needs and experiences of rural and semi-rural USA are sometimes different than those of some of the much-discussed urban US experience that applies to most of the major cities we hear about.  In this case, I am referring to the fact that, as one drives down a highway far away from population centers in the US, and if one does not have a more modern vehicle with ready internet radio or podcast functionality, then I think not only are these voices part of what comes in over the plain old AM/FM airwaves, but I think it's possible that they are some of the only sound one hears.  It's possible that there is a right wing tilt (even more than may already be there in the city?) to the net sum total of what one hears on the radio, once one leaves the confines of local urban radio.  I don't know for sure, it's just a question.
- A reason I'm slightly familiar with the views of most of these five is that I live somewhat rural, and until recently (when I got a used Tesla pre-equipped with vastly improved radio selection), some of these voices would come at me from the radio if I was searching channels.   To be sure, there are a few English language shows that come in that are not so much about politics and news, or which are not as tilted to the right.

So, I listen every once in awhile.  I don't hate every single word that comes out of the mouths of these folks, and can find points to agree with.  My dismisiveness here is not based on the idea that everything they say is wrong, but that the net sum total of their views, and what little I've learned of their post-election views, add up to them having crossed various lines, including a totally (and possibly legally) unacceptable line of having supported the attempted ending of the rule of law in the US.

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#54 2021-01-31 14:13:02

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‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy

The KGB ‘played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality’, Yuri Shvets, a key source for a new book, tells the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … y-new-book


Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.
Yuri Shvets, posted to Washington by the Soviet Union in the 1980s, compares the former US president to “the Cambridge five”, the British spy ring that passed secrets to Moscow during the second world war and early cold war.


snip


“For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery.

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#55 2021-01-31 22:47:49

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Why Republicans won’t agree to Biden’s big plans and why he should ignore them


The new president can achieve huge and vital reform and relief without the party of Trump – and they know it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr … p-congress


If there were ever a time for bold government, it is now. Covid, joblessness, poverty, raging inequality and our last chance to preserve the planet are together creating an existential inflection point.
Fortunately for America and the world, Donald Trump is gone, and Joe Biden has big plans for helping Americans survive Covid and then restructuring the economy, rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure and creating millions of green jobs.


snip


Repairing ageing infrastructure and building a new energy-efficient one will make the economy grow even faster over the long term – further reducing the debt’s share.
No one in their right mind should worry that public spending will “crowd out” private investment.

snip


It’s hard to take Republican concerns about debt seriously when just four years ago they had zero qualms about enacting one of the largest tax cuts in history, largely for big corporations and the super-wealthy.

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#56 2021-02-01 00:15:19

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'It's endemic': state-level Republican groups lead party's drift to extremism

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … te-parties

Despite national failures at the ballot box, radicalised state parties are fighting for Trump’s election lies and defending QAnon followers




Tim Miller, former political director of Republican Voters Against Trump, said: “The evidence is overwhelming that local parties across the country, in blue states and red states, are radicalized and support extremely far outside the mainstream positions like, for example, ending our democratic experiment to install Donald Trump as president over the will of the people.
“They believe in insane Covid denialism and QAnon and all these other conspiracies. It’s endemic, not just a couple of state parties. It’s the vast majority of state parties throughout the country.”
In the internal battle between conservatives and extremists, the extremists appear to be winning. The state party in Oregon recently condemned Liz Cheney and nine other House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump over the Capitol insurrection. It cited a groundless conspiracy theory that the riot was a “false flag” operation staged to discredit the president’s supporters.

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#57 2021-02-01 08:03:34

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Republican State Legislatures Are Radicalizing Against Democracy
The Trump presidency is over. But Trumpism is alive and well in state legislatures, which will serve as an incubator for GOP radicalism over the next four years.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/gop … 4bad33f207

Former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, but the conspiracy theories he stoked — including about dead people casting ballots — and the extremism he inspired has generated a wave of anti-democratic legislation in state legislatures nationwide.
Similar crusades are underway all over the nation, in Texas, Arizona, Georgia and other states. Radicalized by four years of Trump’s presidency, angry over his loss, and emboldened by their own success in fending off Democratic dreams of flipping even a single state legislative chamber last fall, the GOP is ready to subvert democracy in state capitals nationwide.

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#58 2021-02-01 10:23:25

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GOP Lawmakers Seek Tougher Voting Rules After Record Turnout, Election Losses
Many Republican lawmakers at the state level are engaged in a widespread effort to restrict access to the vote after high turnout helped defeat their preferred candidates in 2020.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gop-lawm … 0fb281dcee

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republican lawmakers in statehouses across the country are moving swiftly to attack some of the voting methods that fueled the highest turnout for a presidential election in 50 years.
Although most legislative sessions are just getting underway, the Brennan Center for Justice, a public policy institute, has already tallied more than 100 bills in 28 states meant to restrict voting access.


snip


In Arizona, Republicans have introduced bills that would eliminate the state’s permanent early voting list, require mail ballots to be notarized, require mail-in ballots to be hand-delivered to a voting location and allow lawmakers to overturn presidential election results.

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#59 2021-02-01 11:23:29

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John Malone Platforming Voices seeking the end of the Constitution in the US:

Example Number 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nguVuUchQ
#GlennBeck #Trump #Twitter
Glenn Beck Compares Trump Twitter Ban to the Holocaust
35,577 views
•Jan 13, 2021

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#60 2021-02-01 11:29:56

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murdoch wrote:

John Malone Platforming Voices seeking the end of the Constitution in the US:

Example Number 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nguVuUchQ
#GlennBeck #Trump #Twitter
Glenn Beck Compares Trump Twitter Ban to the Holocaust
35,577 views
•Jan 13, 2021



None of this is really that surprising but the scary part is some tens of millions of citizens believe this garbage

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#61 2021-02-01 11:50:43

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How Trump Unleashed a Domestic Terrorism Movement—And What Experts Say Must Be Done to Defeat It
“He tells them what to do. He tells them why they’re angry.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … ncitement/


Trump did more than just invite supporters to a rally. He also repeatedly shared a slickly produced video, titled “The Plot to Steal America,” that warned ominously of a Chinese communist scheme involving Biden, the Democrats, and the news media, and called for Trump supporters to mobilize. “We know that our rights don’t come from the government, but from God,” declared the narrator, an Ohio jewelry buyer formerly employed by the pro-Trump propaganda outlet the Epoch Times.



snip


The Capitol insurrection was a beginning, not an end—celebrated by far-right extremists as a thrilling affirmation of their relevance. National security experts and historians alike know that failed coup attempts are often followed by successful ones.
Experts say that danger requires a massive official response. “We need a dedicated group in the federal government that is focused on this,” says Selim, who headed a counter-extremism program in Obama’s DHS—a multiagency effort Trump moved to dismantle in 2017.

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#62 2021-02-01 15:19:42

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Tallex wrote:
murdoch wrote:

John Malone Platforming Voices seeking the end of the Constitution in the US:

Example Number 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nguVuUchQ
#GlennBeck #Trump #Twitter
Glenn Beck Compares Trump Twitter Ban to the Holocaust
35,577 views
•Jan 13, 2021

None of this is really that surprising but the scary part is some tens of millions of citizens believe this garbage

I think we've made some progress here.  If we ask "how and why do tens of millions believe this garbage", then I think part (but not all) of the answer is that a steady stream of low-quality thinking has been coming at them through their radios for the last 30+ years, and that for the last few years (at least) John Carl Malone appears to have been central to enabling, and supporting and perhaps in some way flat-out paying for that stream.

In the case of Beck, I thought the strong well-organized advertiser boycotts got him off the mainstream airwaves, no?  Then is it Malone's direct fault that Beck is somehow front and center again?  I think it's a reasonable question, especially considering the amount of damage that Beck is continuing to do.

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#63 2021-02-01 16:13:57

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murdoch wrote:
Tallex wrote:
murdoch wrote:

John Malone Platforming Voices seeking the end of the Constitution in the US:

Example Number 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nguVuUchQ
#GlennBeck #Trump #Twitter
Glenn Beck Compares Trump Twitter Ban to the Holocaust
35,577 views
•Jan 13, 2021

None of this is really that surprising but the scary part is some tens of millions of citizens believe this garbage.

I think we've made some progress here.  If we ask "how and why do tens of millions believe this garbage", then I think part (but not all) of the answer is that a steady stream of low-quality thinking has been coming at them through their radios for the last 30+ years, and that for the last few years (at least) John Carl Malone appears to have been central to enabling, and supporting and perhaps in some way flat-out paying for that stream.

In the case of Beck, I thought the strong well-organized advertiser boycotts got him off the mainstream airwaves, no?  Then is it Malone's direct fault that Beck is somehow front and center again?  I think it's a reasonable question, especially considering the amount of damage that Beck is continuing to do.




Wasn't it Goebbels who said " If you repeat a lie long enough and often enough, people will believe it".
All of these RW outlets do the same thing akin to cult behavior and have for decades with continued brainwashing. Right out of '30's Germany propaganda instilling fear of various scapegoats, branding "others" as enemies and repeating the same lies (or a version of) over and over again.
An old and familiar authoritarian/fascist playbook and certain RW media outlets use it well.



A few of many 45 quotes.

"What you are seeing and hearing is not what is happening", "The press is the enemy of the people" and the classic "I love uneducated people"



This link from 2011 might explain some of why certain people believe this crap. I don't know if there is an updated study on this but it's interesting.


Reality Check: Why Some Brains Can’t Tell Real From Imagined


https://healthland.time.com/2011/10/05/ … f%20people


How do you know what’s real? A new study suggests that people’s ability to distinguish between what really happened and what was imagined may be determined by the presence of a fold at the front of the brain that develops late in pregnancy, and is missing entirely in 27% of people.

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To keep it going, here is another of many examples of virulent anti-freedom nonsense that has been provided a generous firm platform (to reach millions) by Mr. Malone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Uj70bVbpc
Rush Limbaugh Compares Trump Mob to Founding Fathers
79,067 views
•Jan 8, 2021

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#65 2021-02-02 11:24:30

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Today's dose (Pretty awful, I only made it halfway through, but if Mr. Malone is going to provide a big loud regular megaphone for this ultra-toxic stuff, every day, so that millions of Americans can hear it, and are subjected to it as a penalty merely for turning their radio dials to look for something else, then I think we can start to take note more thoroughly and regularly).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TwD2Ed … e=emb_logo
Mark Levin Explains How Stupid Dem's Insurrection Lie Is, Points Out Pelosi's Crazy Murderous Idea
214 views
•Jan 25, 2021
https://www.iheart.com/live/mark-levin-show-5522/

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#66 2021-02-05 15:58:56

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Feds Drop The Hammer On The Capitol Insurrectionists
Recent grand jury indictments connected to the U.S. Capitol attack show the feds aren't messing around.


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/gra … b8db3c8499

...after prosecutors presented their cases to a federal grand jury, many insurrectionists have been charged with much more serious offenses: felonies that come with the potential of significant time in federal prison.
In addition to criminal complaints, the government has secured federal grand jury indictments against a number of defendants, including conspiracy cases against defendants who allegedly worked together during the attack on the Capitol. A number of U.S. Capitol attack defendants have been indicted on serious charges — nearly a dozen on Wednesday alone.

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In Voting to Back Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP Goes Full Q
Today, House Republicans faced a choice. Most sided with hate and lies.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … g-ovation/

This strong defense of Greene from Republicans was something of a foregone conclusion. The day before, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy declined to use his own authority to sanction Greene, and instead accused Democrats of a power grab targeting one of his colleagues. McCarthy insisted that Greene had apologized for her toxic views in a closed-door meeting, a statement which reportedly prompted Republicans in the room to give her a standing ovation.
Whatever contrition Greene may have signaled in private, she remains defiantly opposed to apologizing in public or to making any disavowal of her past endorsements of political violence and unhinged conspiracies. But for too many Republicans, what she said was enough to convince them that they want QAnon and the violent hate associated with it in their party. They’ll even clap for it.

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Re: democracy is fragile-Clear Channel-Iheart-Liberty-media-John Malone

regarding

    the lawsuit by Smartmatic against Fox/Dobbs/Bartiromo/Pirro, and
    the lawsuit by Dominion against Giuliani/Powell

Why aren't any of them suing iHeartMedia and some of the radio personalities there who have lent support to the insurrection? Did those personalities successfully avoid defaming those two companies as part of their scurrilous agitation, or are the companies not realizing whom to go after in their righteous lawsuits?

I'm wondering now if there is research that activists can do, to zoom in on whether Limbaugh, et. al. have said much about Smartmatic and Dominion, and whether there is anything that could be actionable in a lawsuit.

I was not familiar with Dobbs and his point of view (I avoided as much as possible watching TV or even following the Trump administration) but if he was a major voice of irrationality on TV and has been swiftly removed in part due to this lawsuit, then GOOD!!!  A wonderful accomplishment already of the lawsuit.  Can the same be done to Limbaugh or Levin or Savage or Hannity or Beck?  I'm going to assume probably those five have been too smooth and smart in their comments, but it would be worth looking into, in my opinion.

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#69 2021-02-06 16:29:04

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Dominion Voting Lawyer Suggests OAN May Be Next for a Mega-Lawsuit
And the MyPillow Guy, too.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … oan-trump/


Dominion has filed defamation lawsuits against both Giuliani and Powell claiming over $1.3 billion in damages in each case. Smartmatic has sued Fox News for $2.7 billion. All of these lawsuits contend that Trump’s conspiracy-mongers seriously harmed these companies with their baseless allegations of a global plot—the Chinese communists! Hugo Chavez! the CIA!—to swipe the election for Trump.

It was damn obvious that OAN was trying to save itself from a similar fate. Fox News and Newsmax, another right-wing outlet, tried in their own way to do the same last month, airing embarrassing retractions of their previous promotion of these loony claims. That did not stop Smartmatic from suing Fox.

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#70 2021-02-06 17:13:26

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I hope we see some follow-up on this with Limbaugh, Hannity and with iHeartMedia:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/24/dominio … inent.html
Politics
Dominion Voting warns Fox News, Sean Hannity, other conservative outlets that defamation lawsuits are imminent
Published Thu, Dec 24 20202:38 PM ESTUpdated Thu, Jan 7 20212:40 AM EST
Dan Mangan
@_DanMangan


and more recently this seems useful:
https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limba … -listeners
Rush Limbaugh's election lies about Dominion Voting Systems reached millions of listeners
Written by Alex Walker
Published 02/03/21 9:13 AM EST

If we look at how swiftly Dobbs was removed from the air, I wonder if something similar could be accomplished with Hannity and Limbaugh.

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#71 2021-02-10 16:29:04

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This article has nothing about John Malone, but has some good useful-seeming information about the general state of the US conservative radio business.  In my view, it takes on added importance this week as some of these hosts, including particularly Mr. Limbaugh, were on the front line in trying to help Mr. Trump overthrow the rule of law in the US, and steal the US election, even as they blathered that they were trying supposedly patriotically to combat the theft of the election.

If I were trying to help make the Impeachment case this week, I would ask conservative senators if it would really bother them if someone were to try to steal a US Presidential election.  It bothered the protestors enough that they stormed the capitol.  They had been convinced by Trump that someone was trying to steal the election.  Indeed, someone was trying to steal the US election.  It was Trump himself.  And he was helped greatly by Limbaugh and company.

SOURCE: Washington Post
2/9/2021
Rush Limbaugh is Ailing. And so is the Conservative Talk-Radio Industry
[historynewsnetwork.org]

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#72 2021-02-10 17:54:46

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murdoch wrote:

This article has nothing about John Malone, but has some good useful-seeming information about the general state of the US conservative radio business.  In my view, it takes on added importance this week as some of these hosts, including particularly Mr. Limbaugh, were on the front line in trying to help Mr. Trump overthrow the rule of law in the US, and steal the US election, even as they blathered that they were trying supposedly patriotically to combat the theft of the election.

If I were trying to help make the Impeachment case this week, I would ask conservative senators if it would really bother them if someone were to try to steal a US Presidential election.  It bothered the protestors enough that they stormed the capitol.  They had been convinced by Trump that someone was trying to steal the election.  Indeed, someone was trying to steal the US election.  It was Trump himself.  And he was helped greatly by Limbaugh and company.

SOURCE: Washington Post
2/9/2021
Rush Limbaugh is Ailing. And so is the Conservative Talk-Radio Industry
[historynewsnetwork.org]



Good article.
As I've said many times in the past, Reagan getting rid of the "Fairness Doctrine" was a huge mistake.
Bringing it back would be a good thing and restore some balance and enforcement against hate, lies and incitement propagated over syndicated RW AM radio..
Mind you it seems that talk radio format, more and more has a shrinking audience and is apparently becoming relegated to the (not ALL by far) over 65 demographic. It wouldn't be surprising if iheart and others going over the numbers decided to switch formats to sport talk in much of these markets after Limbaugh is gone.
The market for talk radio has been shrinking for over 40 years and sport talk is one of the few ways that iheart and others of their ink can hold on (milk) a little longer to their diminishing audience on a SO last century AM platform.
Many would be hard pressed to remember the last time they actually listened to an AM radio station.
That is except for a hardcore minority of citizens
that listen on a regular basis.


p.s. I made a good guess and read your comment post at WashTimes. Good one.

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#73 2021-02-11 06:25:49

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Trump’s Impeachment Trial Matters, Even if He Dodges Conviction
How Trump’s second impeachment can be more damaging than the first.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … t-matters/

Republicans are extremely unlikely to vote to convict Trump. And so the question left is, what’s the point?
Despite this situation, the trial will be important, with major likely repercussions. Trump will walk away unable to claim a clean victory. The Republican Party will emerge damaged. And historians will study it as a moment the US’s Constitutional system once again revealed itself to be profoundly broken.

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#74 2021-02-11 21:37:56

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Tallex wrote:

Trump’s Impeachment Trial Matters, Even if He Dodges Conviction
How Trump’s second impeachment can be more damaging than the first.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … t-matters/

Republicans are extremely unlikely to vote to convict Trump. And so the question left is, what’s the point?
Despite this situation, the trial will be important, with major likely repercussions. Trump will walk away unable to claim a clean victory. The Republican Party will emerge damaged. And historians will study it as a moment the US’s Constitutional system once again revealed itself to be profoundly broken.

Haven't read the article, but I agree with the basic idea.  There's just too much news and analysis these days.  I'm replying in order to say this:

The most compelling argument (in my opinion) for conviction is one I haven't heard, so I'll make it here:

Do you as a Senator care a lot when someone tries to steal an election? When they try to commit vote fraud? When they try to strong-arm and intimidate civil servants and elected officials? Have you favored looking into President Trump's claims of vote fraud? Are you concerned to "stop the steal"? Then why aren't you EQUALLY AS CONCERNED with the vastly more credible evidence that Mr. Trump tried to steal this election, ... tried to overturn the clear will of the people... in part through his tactics leading up to and on January 6?

Seriously.... we have all listened to so many calls for "looking into" Mr. Trump's claims that the vote was being stolen. Yet, when it comes into "looking into" claims that it was Mr. Trump himself that was seeking to steal the election, we have crickets from those who were just moments ago making those allegedly principled patriotic heartfelt calls.

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#75 2021-02-12 12:28:51

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'Forever Stained': Wall Street Journal Delivers Devastating Verdict On Donald Trump
The newspaper's conservative editorial board urged Republicans to remember one thing about the former president.


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/wal … 1597e12730


Trump’s legacy “will be forever stained” by the deadly violence that rocked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 and “by his betrayal of his supporters in refusing to tell them the truth” about his 2020 election loss in the weeks leading up to the insurrection, said the newspaper’s conservative editorial board wrote.
And “whatever the result” of the ongoing Senate impeachment trial for inciting the riot, “Republicans should remember the betrayal if Mr. Trump decides to run again in 2024,” the editorial urged.

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#76 2021-02-13 13:14:32

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Tucker Carlson
The Fox News personality "is peddling lunatic conspiracy theories that endanger people’s lives and shred our social fabric," wrote Max Boot for The Washington Post.





https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/fox … 1becd8ee3e



Conservative columnist Max Boot warned in his latest op-ed for The Washington Post why Fox News personality Tucker Carlson may now pose “the most dangerous threat” to American democracy.

Carlson “seems to be on a mission to make America’s worst problems even worse,” declared Boot.

Boot recalled some of Carlson’s more egregious takes in recent weeks — from his repeated casting of doubt on coronavirus vaccines to his peddling of falsehoods about the police killing of George Floyd.

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#77 2021-02-13 20:30:04

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57 GOP State And Local Officials Were At The Capitol Insurrection
And a month after the riot, few of the Republican political figures have been held to account.


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/57- … 8289fb90a6


At least 57 state and local Republican officials attended the Jan. 6 rally in Washington that turned into a deadly insurrection, according to an updated HuffPost tally. Almost all of them are resisting calls to resign.
They traveled from 27 states for the “Stop the Steal” demonstration near the White House. A couple of officials even gave speeches, warming up the crowd for then-President Donald Trump, who took the stage and regurgitated lies about the election results before instructing the “Make America Great Again” mob to march on the U.S. Capitol.
Late last month, after identifying an initial 21 state and local GOP officials at the rally — among them a QAnon conspiracy theorist, a self-described member of a far-right militia and a man who once declared that “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” — HuffPost received emails from readers across the country identifying the additional 36 officials in this new tally.

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#78 2021-02-17 17:00:03

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Rush Limbaugh dies at 70 following battle with lung cancer

https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/ru … -1.5312622


Rush Limbaugh, the talk radio host who ripped into liberals and laid waste to political correctness with a captivating brand of malice that made him one of the most powerful voices in politics, influencing the rightward push of American conservatism and the rise of Donald Trump, died Wednesday. He was 70.

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#79 2021-02-17 18:52:32

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‘I Miss My Mom’: Children Of QAnon Believers Are Desperately Trying To Deradicalize Their Own Parents
Here’s what it’s like to lose the person who raised you to a far-right cult.


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/chi … 586aa49077



Sadly, there is no magic hotline or manual to deprogram your QAnon-addicted loved one. There seem to be almost no resources at all — despite QAnon’s head-spinning growth and the urgent calls from extremism experts for the government to invest in deradicalization initiatives.


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QAnon has dominated headlines and airwaves as it stakes its territory in mainstream U.S. politics. Journalists are shedding light onvitallyimportant issues, such as the complicity of Big Tech and the GOP in its insidious rise.

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#80 2021-02-17 21:56:49

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'5-Alarm Fire': Arizona Republicans Lead Nationwide GOP Push To Curb Voting Rights
No state is considering more bills to restrict voting rights than Arizona, where activists say the GOP is waging a "full-scale assault on democratic norms."


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/ari … a5db9e903d



Arizona Republican lawmakers have launched a “full-scale assault” on democracy, a coalition of voting rights groups in the state warned Tuesday, pointing to the introduction of a flurry of bills that would restrict ballot access and overhaul the state’s election system in the wake of major GOP losses there in the 2020 election.

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“We are looking at dozens and dozens of bills that put barriers in the way of voters, that undermine the vote by mail system, that would gut the grassroots ballot initiative process and criminalize protests. It’s a full-scale assault on democratic norms, ideals, and institutions,” Emily Kirkland, the executive director of the grassroots group Progress Arizona, said during a Tuesday conference call organized by Stand Up America, a national progressive advocacy group.

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#81 2021-02-18 18:59:04

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Not deep information, but noting the article:

https://simplywall.st/stocks/us/media/n … rdk-shareh
Here's What Liberty Broadband Corporation's (NASDAQ:LBRD.K) Shareholder Ownership Structure Looks Like
By    Simply Wall St
Published February 18, 2021

"... The Vanguard Group, Inc. is currently the largest shareholder, with 7.2% of shares outstanding. With 4.7% and 3.7% of the shares outstanding respectively, BlackRock, Inc. and John Malone are the second and third largest shareholders. John Malone, who is the third-largest shareholder, also happens to hold the title of Chairman of the Board. In addition, we found that Gregory Maffei, the CEO has 0.9% of the shares allocated to their name. ...."

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#82 2021-02-18 20:18:21

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Thanks, good to know.

Tallex wrote:

'5-Alarm Fire': Arizona Republicans Lead Nationwide GOP Push To Curb Voting Rights
No state is considering more bills to restrict voting rights than Arizona, where activists say the GOP is waging a "full-scale assault on democratic norms."


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/ari … a5db9e903d



Arizona Republican lawmakers have launched a “full-scale assault” on democracy, a coalition of voting rights groups in the state warned Tuesday, pointing to the introduction of a flurry of bills that would restrict ballot access and overhaul the state’s election system in the wake of major GOP losses there in the 2020 election.

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“We are looking at dozens and dozens of bills that put barriers in the way of voters, that undermine the vote by mail system, that would gut the grassroots ballot initiative process and criminalize protests. It’s a full-scale assault on democratic norms, ideals, and institutions,” Emily Kirkland, the executive director of the grassroots group Progress Arizona, said during a Tuesday conference call organized by Stand Up America, a national progressive advocacy group.

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#83 2021-02-18 23:13:17

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Ted Cruz Slammed After Photos Show Him Flying To Cancun As Texans Freeze

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/ted … fc101ccef3



While Texans struggle to keep warm amid power outages caused by historic winter weather, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) was spotted Wednesday boarding a plane for Cancun with members of his family.
Photographs from multiple sources showed Cruz in a mask standing in the boarding area for a United flight at Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport with luggage, and then on the plane itself holding a passport ― sparking instant derision on social media.
In a statement issued early Thursday afternoon, the senator admitted to traveling for pleasure.

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Later, speaking to reporters, he conceded that he had originally intended to stay with his family “through the weekend” but cut the plan short after realizing it was received badly back home. Text messages obtained by The New York Times also cast doubt on Cruz’s suggestion that the trip came at the urging of his daughters or their friends.

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#84 2021-02-22 12:39:03

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After Trump Failed to Overturn the 2020 Election, Republicans Are Trying to Steal the Next One
This is the most concerted effort to roll back voting rights in decades.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … p-georgia/




A decade ago Republicans passed new voter ID laws and other efforts to curtail voting rights when they took power in the states following Barack Obama’s election. Now they’re taking that strategy to the next level—trying to accomplish through legislation what Trump couldn’t with litigation. All in all, these efforts amount to the most concerted attempts to roll back voting rights since the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965.

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#85 2021-02-22 15:47:23

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Democrats’ Top Priority Is To Reform Elections. Will It Be The Bill To Break The Filibuster?
Their sweeping package of voting rights and campaign finance reforms could be the first bill this year blocked by a GOP filibuster.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/vot … b19b686609

Congressional Democrats are pushing a sweeping package of voting rights, gerrymandering, election, campaign finance and ethics reforms, called the For the People Act.


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Right now, Republican-controlled state legislatures are pushing bills to limit early and absentee voting, purge voters from the rolls, and toughen voter ID requirements. The For the People Act would ban almost all of these schemes to make it harder for certain communities to vote.

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#86 2021-02-28 12:08:38

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Republicans Are Taking Their Voter Suppression Efforts to New Extremes
From Georgia to Iowa, Republicans are concocting new ways to suppress Democratic votes.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … -extremes/


After record turnout in 2020, Republican-controlled states appear to be in a race to the bottom to see who can pass the most egregious new barriers to voting.
According to a new analysis by the Brennan Center for Justice, 253 bills to restrict voting access have been introduced in 43 states already this year. Georgia is ground zero for the GOP’s escalating war on voting, targeting the voting methods that were used most by Democratic voters in 2020 and which contributed to flipping the state blue and electing two Democratic senators.



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#87 2021-02-28 19:15:34

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The Useful Idiot: Why We're Not Done With Trump Yet
America, we got lucky. On the laundry list of things Donald Trump has been terrible at, transforming our country into a fascist autocracy was only the latest.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/tru … a5dba1e428


The president of the United States, after losing reelection by 7 million votes, riled up his cult-like followers for months with lies about massive voter fraud, culminating with a “Stop the Steal” rally near the White House urging them to march on the Capitol just as Congress set about to formally certify Joe Biden as the winner.

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#88 2021-02-28 20:39:48

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Former CPAC Chair Minces No Words Slamming What The Event, GOP Have Now Become
This year's Conservative Political Action Conference attendees “are living in an alternate reality in which facts don’t matter," said former GOP Rep. Mickey Edwards.


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/ex- … a7e40dcf05


Mickey Edwards — who led the American Conservative Union, which organizes the event, for five years until 1983 — ripped Republicans attending this year’s CPAC in Orlando for their devotion to former President Donald Trump.
In an interview with CNN’s Erin Burnett, Edwards likened the GOP to a cult whose members are living in an alternate reality.

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#89 2021-03-01 17:14:08

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Republicans Are Taking Their Voter Suppression Efforts to New Extremes
From Georgia to Iowa, Republicans are concocting new ways to suppress Democratic votes.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … -extremes/


According to a new analysis by the Brennan Center for Justice, 253 bills to restrict voting access have been introduced in 43 states already this year. Georgia is ground zero for the GOP’s escalating war on voting, targeting the voting methods that were used most by Democratic voters in 2020 and which contributed to flipping the state blue and electing two Democratic senators.

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#90 2021-03-03 16:18:33

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Records Prove The Obvious: Fervent Trump Fans Fueled The Capitol Siege
The insurrectionist mob incited by Trump consisted of GOP officials, political donors, far-right extremists, white supremacists and QAnon conspiracy followers.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/records- … 3f795f1169

The insurrectionist mob that showed up at the president’s behest and stormed the U.S. Capitol was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including Republican Party officials, GOP political donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, and adherents of the QAnon myth that the government is secretly controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophile cannibals. Records show that some were heavily armed and included convicted criminals, such as a Florida man recently released from prison for attempted murder.

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